I want to come to Jill, but I have a question for you, Eugene, and you can think about this while Jill's answering.
You said that if you can't get a 5% to 10% return on investment, then you're not going to bring people in. I need to know what you think the return on investment is in this industry overall, and I know it's not that.
Jill, you've talked about Australia and the response of the Australians to the U.S.-EU. Can you expand on that somewhat? What did the Australians do? I'm not aware of what they've done.