I'll speak first.
The gene cannot be contained, period. It is a perennial plant. When that alfalfa is in flower and a pollinator comes and lands on that flower and then goes to a non-GMO plant, the seeds produced from that plant will be Roundup Ready.
As stated in the information packages that I've provided, Cal/West Seeds has approached me. They are a large co-op seed company in the United States that has been monitoring the Roundup Ready alfalfa situation, and I believe that in 2008 3% of their lots were contaminated, and in 2009, 12%; they openly admit that this is just a sign of the times, this is what we're going to do.
Because as this seed now becomes Roundup Ready alfalfa, there are going to be more plants slowly able to cross-pollinate and contaminate all of them. So it is impossible for the gene to... And I do speak my opinion when I say such things: I do believe that they recognize the issues, because in their stewardship protocol they addressed it, that there is going to be transfer flow, which you won't have Monsanto Canada acknowledge.
They recognize that there is transfer flow. They were given specific areas of production where they had to abide by those areas, but instead they turned around and produced it all over the place.
For a lack of terminology, I'll say that once the barn door is open, it's open; the gene is there. In Canada, we're already at great enough risk with the idea of low-level presence. They can legally have it in seed that has been brought up into Canada. From there, it's as we were talking about earlier, in that it's a very minute and slow process compared to the commercial release of their product, but it still puts us at risk.