Yes, or somewhere along that. In beginning, Mr. Chairman, I just might say that I had seven meetings in the Interlake area on the Thanksgiving weekend. At one of those meetings, there were over 80 producers, and all had between 50 and 80.
The Arborg Credit Union has indicated in that Interlake area—this is no laughing matter—the debt load has doubled in three years, and that's for no new investment, but just for producers to stay where they're at. Putting caterpillar tracks on combines is the only new investment. That tells you how serious the situation is out there.
The member for the Interlake, I might admit, is good at sitting on his horse, Woody, talking about gun control, but he should be representing producers in his area. That's why we're out there.