Okay. I think I understand a little better.
The cost of production, as we see in the supply managed commodities, is an excellent way to ensure that producers make a reasonable return on their investment for their time and labour. By not having cost of production in the formula, you disadvantage a section of our industry. The programs that we have today don't take into account all costs.
It's a different issue, I guess. We disadvantage our producers here in AgriStability in two ways. We do not allow for true costs of production, and that is a challenge. As Mr. Shipley has said, we need to understand how, if we have a COP program, we limit production so that we don't cause over-expansion. There always needs to be a certain amount of expansion within an industry. The flip side of that is that in all of our trade talks we defend our supply management to the detriment of the non-supply-managed commodities.
So we do a little bit of sucking and blowing. It's a difficult question. This is not a simple issue, as we all realize, in how to address that. The challenge we have is that we're trying to plan a strategy for an ongoing war while we're in the middle of a heated battle, and that always makes it difficult. The challenge you have is that we are the ones who pay the price as we try to figure it out.