Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, everyone, for coming.
Mr. Bailey, I hear what you're asking, and I believe it's the mandate of the government to decide one way or the other. If I can, I'm going to ask you to comment. I know the CFA is working on a national food policy. The chair is correct; we have this federal-provincial dynamic that talks about how we do programs.
Quite often, we're not necessarily doing what works for farmers, even though the intentions may be right sometimes. Clearly what we're hearing is that the CAIS program didn't really address the needs. These programs don't really address these needs. Depending on which farm you happen to be on, and as Mr. Person was talking about earlier, on one side, as a person—no pun intended—you're doing okay in the grain industry, but on the consultant side, when you talk to folks in the livestock industry, they're not doing so well with a similar program. He gets the dual experience.
You're in the fruit industry, which obviously in the Niagara peninsula, where I come from, is a significant industry. We saw it being decimated over the years for different reasons.
Let me ask you what you need, not what we think you need. What do you need in the tree fruit industry to be viable, sustainable, into the future? I premise that by saying I don't buy the argument that if I can get apples cheaper in China, then we don't grow apples in Canada anymore. I want to know about growing whatever that tree fruit is here in this country, and how you would see the programs making your viability an essential component as we go forward.