No, this is at the southern end of Ontario. They live down the peninsula. I'm sure you know many of them; they've been at it for a long time, right?
I talked to a couple of them—I know you'll probably ask what equity—but I'm dealing with gentlemen who have been at it for a long time, who are making decisions as they talk about succession eating up all their equity in their operation, to try to sustain it, to pass it on, with their grown children looking at them and saying they don't know if they want this business.
At the same time, the father and the mother are trying to stay in the business to have something to pass on. I heard you say earlier that we need to change the program tomorrow, but today would be better. Is it your sense that we will have a viable hog operation in eastern Canada in three to five years, or are we watching the demise of the hog industry in eastern Canada?