Ms. Jody Aylard at the Agriculture and Agri-Food Committee

Each individual case for a farmer is different, so forecast numbers are a challenge to put forward. The situation, though, just to clarify, with the emergency advances that most of the hog producers and a large portion of the cattle producers took in 2008-09, the security requirements were different from the normal program. So what you described is correct most of the time, but in response to the demand for a cash infusion, the emergency advances were put in place. The BRM security requirements were different and they could get an advance on--