Because if all you're measuring is the profit.... You must measure other things along the way. That's true with all that we're saying here.
But more than one group today and,
Mr. Zettel, you said that the increased costs of setting up and moving forward with organic farms required a little bit more business management perhaps than regular agriculture, and I'm certain that from the organic side you must have members in your groups too that just, if you will, fly by the seat of their pants rather than run through management.