Thanks very much, Chair.
These have been excellent presentations. I find this fascinating. There were a couple of really good comments made, one of them being that I think we all want to see farmers succeed with their farms founded on sound business principles. I think there's a real desire for that, but I also think we're in an environment where—and I think Mr. Seguin made the point—we're not able to add funding or to see any kind of significant funding to programs that already exist. It's going to be a reallocation of funding. There are trade-offs that have to be considered.
From the Saint Andrews meeting, certainly the opening move is a willingness to negotiate. I think that's what was basically expressed, with some goals about where negotiation should take place. Of course, the next steps will be the provinces and the federal government actually negotiating, working out, and examining these trade-offs.
When it comes to business development, one of the questions I have is—and perhaps I'll ask this question of Heather or Richard—in terms of the take-up on training. You're offering services and I'm wondering if you have any kind of measurement system that allows you to assess, first of all, what kind of take-up you get when farmers participate in a training program or initiative. More importantly, what percentage actually implement what they've learned or seen on the course? And finally, what is also very important is, what's the impact? Is there any way to say, "I went to that course, I heard 50 good ideas, I implemented 30, and I'm 15% stronger than I was before I went on that course." Do you look at that at all? I think it's an important parameter.
The government likes to know when it's investing money that it's actually yielding certain outcomes. Do you look at that at all?