Okay, then, Bob, you can think of a good answer.
Quickly, back to the hospital point, this is a really interesting area. It speaks to the idea that we tried to present here, which is whether we should be thinking about the health sector and the agrifood sector, and are there mutual opportunities, such as in the procurement of Canadian food, wherever it may be grown, to help serve hospital meals?
I know in the GTA—I hope the statistic is right. There are 115 million long-term care hospital meals served every year in the province. One has to wonder whether that's an opportunity, and I don't have the answer. What is the percentage of food that's drawn from Ontario or Canada? It's a question that we have to ask. Are we missing opportunities in our own backyard?
With respect to Vineland, I'm most familiar with them. I think there are efforts being undertaken across the country to try to bring people together. I mentioned CIGI. There's the Richardson Centre for Functional Foods in Winnipeg that's trying to reach out and engage the private sector, the supply chains, to create opportunities. There's FOODTECH Canada, if I have that right. They have R and D facilities across the country to bring in growers and entrepreneurs to co-develop foods, and test them, including market and consumer research. There's a whole lot of activity.
The question I would come back to is, are they business-led? Do they have a line of sight on the consumer, and are they leveraging the resources of the public and private research facilities in order to get product to market? And then is the regulatory structure in line with when a product comes out the door?
You need these pieces coming together at once I think in order to create that optimum environment for innovation.