There are two things. The first point to note on the issue of science...I don't want to say there is not every good reason to be moving in this direction from a scientific animal welfare point of view. The other key issue is that the current code of practice for care of pigs in Canada is about to be released in its updated version, and it will undoubtedly set a new goal for conversion to open housing systems in Canada. The industry is right at the table developing those new requirements and standards and outcomes over time.
The second point is exactly why I said I believe there needs to be a program. This is a huge cost, particularly for smaller producers, and there is a very logical public policy reason why some government assistance to get us there would be very helpful and move it to a point where we can make it almost a competitive advantage for the Canadian industry.