Absolutely. We've seen at all sorts of the institutions, particularly in plant breeding, cutbacks taking place. Breeders are leaving institutions for other pastures, and we put ourselves at peril. When we talk about innovation, it's innovation to what end? We feel that publicly financed innovation that's equitably and cheaply distributed to farmers and to the economy as a whole generates the maximum value for Canadians. If you allow it to be financed up to a point and then transfer it over to the private sector to be sold back to us, again, with intellectual property regimes which are going to be strengthened in the Canada-European trade agreement drastically with enforcement provisions that make one pale, that comes at a cost. That costs not just farmers but it costs the economy as a whole.
The question is whether you think it's appropriate to allow that amount of money to go to the largest players in the seed industry—the Monsantos and Bayers and DuPonts, etc.—or whether you want to develop that and shift it to farmers and benefit Canadians as a whole through the activities of farmers.