You've nailed something very succinctly, which is that they go hat in hand. They are absolutely at the disposal of the liquor control boards, and they must have these boards' approval; otherwise they're not in business. It's a delicate imbalance that has to be corrected, because there has to be an alternative.
Also, more importantly, the liquor control boards have to be accountable. That's where you come in. You have to hold their feet to the fire. They have been bullying this industry for so long, they think they can't be touched. Well, they can be touched, and it's going to happen in a number of ways. What's going to happen down the road—and it's just a guess on my part—is that there will be a social movement that will find wine being moved via Internet sales. I'm now hearing it more and more. About three or four years ago, I asked if they were shipping wines, and they all said no. Now what I'm hearing is that they are shipping wines and will continue to ship them, and they dare the liquor boards to charge them.
It's right around the corner, a social movement is coming. We can talk until we're blue in the face. I think the industry itself is going to move this, if we can't.
The small wineries right now go hat in hand and ask to have one of their wines on the liquor board shelves because it'll help them a lot. If the liquor boards say no, the small wineries are buggered.