Absolutely.
I have a last question for both of you gentlemen.
I've heard a lot about technology transfer and commercialization and how it must be included in any research project or strategy, because it's one of the weakest links in the innovation project. What do you think the federal government can do better to connect both ends of the value chain to increase the number of research projects that are successfully commercialized?
Mr. Phillips, would you mind starting? Mr. Fraser, you can finish, and then I'm sure the chair will count my time.