To answer what Mr. Goodale was asking and echo some of the comments I've heard tonight from you and previous witnesses, basically, direct government intervention is always a last resort. Even when direct government intervention is used, it has to be used carefully and used prudently.
Minister Raitt was here just yesterday. I think she put it well when she spoke about ideally wanting stakeholders working together with industry solutions focused on service, on corporate responsibility and credibility, those types of positive factors, I'll call them, that lead to positive solutions. You don't necessarily want key stakeholders looking over their shoulders and making decisions based on penalties, on liquidated damages, the sort of circle-the-wagon approach, not based on positive service delivery, but on minimizing damage. I think that answers some of the testimony I've heard from you and from others, and certainly from Minister Raitt the other day.
I certainly do appreciate the comments that all of you have made. Cam, as you were making your comments in front of committee, what I heard you saying, and what I heard our earlier witnesses saying, is that you support this legislation, particularly the key elements of it and what it sets out to achieve. I think you appreciate that we're moving quickly, which is why we're here tonight and we'll be here twice tomorrow, in the afternoon and at night. I think you appreciate that consultation and the regulations to follow could be very productive. I think what I hear you saying, too, is that you appreciate the fact that the review of the CTA being accelerated is also beneficial. That's certainly what I've been hearing.
I will ask a specific question.
Art, you were saying that for your commodity, sale to the U.S. is important. I want to ask about the interswitching being opened up to 160 kilometres. When I look at the map that I have in front of me, I see that a number of the intersect points overlap with the U.S. border. To me, with the new interswitching requirements laid out in the legislation with the intersect on the United States, my thinking would be that if CN and CP aren't able to move your product south, certainly resources in the south could move north to pick up your product.
I wonder whether you could comment on that.