I can respond to that.
Regarding the penalties for the order in council, we don't see that as long term. We see that as a very short term measure. What we would rather see that replaced with is contractual relationships between the shipper and the railways with reciprocal penalties. Once those reciprocal penalties are in place, then the market can work and when there's a failure by the railways, the penalty can flow from the railways to the shipper and then to the shipper to the farmer to compensate the farmers. That's how we see that working going forward.
The million dollar a day penalty that you're talking about is for not fulfilling the order in council, which is a very temporary measure for setting a minimum standard. We see that as very short term but that's not the long-term solution.