Producer cars provide an option for a lot of producers. Where I am in east central Alberta, there's a line, Battle River Railway it's called, that runs from Camrose to Alliance through an area where there isn't a lot of service. It provides the producers along that line very close hauling distances. With the amalgamation, the consolidation of the elevators across the Prairies, some of these guys.... I was talking to a fellow the other day who went 220 kilometres one way from Castor to the terminal, one trip a day virtually for him.
The producer cars have allowed that, and in our area, it's a proven fact—it has been proven through studies—that any place where you're close to a producer line, the producer cars do bring down the basis in those areas. They provide that competition. So we ship a small percentage of our grain through producer cars, but our terminal elevators know I do, and they're a very important part of moving forward to keep that competitive.