Yes, on producer car numbers, when we had the Wheat Board before the change in the marketing status, until producers found a different way to use the producer cars, we were doing between 11,000 and 13,000 producer cars per year.
In the following year, until we find— First, to ship a producer car we have to have a buyer at the coast, so those relationships had to be built. The line we deal with deals with two grain companies, P & H grain, and Lansing. It took a while to develop those things.
As I said, our line this year is looking at doing 2,000 cars out of there, so I think that producer cars have an opportunity to grow in this atmosphere.
Producer cars need sidings. In the last number of years we've seen CN and CP close sidings. There are sidings out there that they don't have registered to load as producer cars.
We have to be able to allow the option for these producer cars because they're our only outlet when we want to have some options against the big four grain companies. They're that other outlet we have to produce.
Number two was to call for a moratorium on railway siding abandonments and make sure that the ones that are there are re-listed for producer car loading sites. We have a large number of producer car loading sites that have been delisted by the railways and they said they would not spot railcars on those sites. We need to go backwards. I understand there is a cost to maintaining these lines, but there's also a cost to western Canadian grain producers when we lose that competition.