We've heard a lot about transparency and data collection in order to make decisions, because clearly, to say that the railroads don't have enough capacity, without any data, is that true or not? It's akin to what my colleague and I asked about. The railroads are saying there is stuff at the port of Vancouver, but then when you ask the Port Metro Vancouver, they say it's not there. That's the problem, right?
You tell us there's not enough capacity, and the railroads say they think there is. Without any hard data, it would be really difficult to make decisions about how to go forward with this. If they point to this as a one-off, then what do we do? I'm seeing and hearing a trend.
Mr. Etsell, with respect to what you were talking about earlier this evening, you're an inland producer, in a sense. You're in British Columbia, so you're not a port exporter. I'd like you to walk us through that piece you talked about, because I think it's important to hear. We've talked a lot about getting it to the port and getting it out somewhere else. That's not your issue, is it?