I'll just answer it quickly, Mr. Chair.
A person is a person as defined in law. In terms of expenses, there is a regulatory process as well that's defined here, right? True, you want to consult with and have input from the shippers in terms of what they're specifically thinking of, right? You would want that. That's what this process lays out.
Mr. Chair, I want to make sure this section goes underneath the Canada Transportation Act title, not above it when you're inserting it into the act.