Thank you, Chair.
I'd like to thank both of our witnesses. I think you were very interesting. You had so much information, both of you, that my mind's kind of all over the place.
You've talked, Mr. Hall, about Canada losing its leadership role when it comes to scientists. You said that on the world stage we have a lot of work to do to regain that and that we're losing people to New Zealand and other countries. Can you explain how that has happened and what we need to do to regain and maybe have a retention of these scientists?
We all know that the research and development are very important, but it seems that we're not doing enough. Maybe we need to reverse some of the cuts to public research that we've had. I'm wondering if you could elaborate a little more on that, please.