We have programs and they do work, but they're kind of piecemeal. They're just for a few years. They're not long-term programs. I think Andrea touched on how right now they're at about 5 years, but we need something that's about 10 years long.
Would you agree that 10 years is a good long-term vision plan that we should set up for these types of innovation studies? Would you agree that 10 years is a good amount of time?