I want to ask a serious question about the relationship between what I would call basic science and research, which can be commercialized. I think both of you made reference to that at different points in your presentation. I think that's part of what we're actually getting at with Mr. Lemieux's question.
What I heard you saying is, and correct me if I'm wrong, there's some research that isn't possible to profit from. It's kind of the basic research and innovation. At some point, that becomes something that can be commercialized with further investment.
I'll start with Mr. Newkirk. Is that what you were saying earlier in your presentation?