Thank you, Chair, and thank you to all the witnesses.
Professor, the tail end of your conversation was about the two different places where you see conservation. You talk about UPOV 91 in one sense being one structure. Can you highlight for us if other nations...? You kind of alluded to the sense that UPOV 91, which has been adopted elsewhere...that there's room to manoeuvre inside of that in a national sense, if you will, for a national government to make changes to it and it would still be recognized that you've accepted UPOV 91. Is that correct? If so, can you outline some things that others may have done differently, that may have protected what you see as small farm holdings? To be clear, I think what you're saying is a backyard, balcony farmer is not necessarily a small farmer in the sense that we need to protect somebody with two plants on their balcony.