We have some of the finest and best artisanal cheese in the world, without a doubt, and we can compete with anyone in the world, without a doubt. The caveat is that it must be on a level playing field. That is the issue we're up against. So I agree with what the UPA president has said, because that is what our message is, I guess. Certainly the Prime Minister himself, when he made the announcement about the CETA deal back in Brussels, did acknowledge that there could be some.... I don't know exactly the language he used. There were some fairly big words there about some transitional negative impact and that the government would compensate for that.
As I said earlier in my opening statement, we have fully and willingly engaged in constructive dialogue with the government to try to mitigate some of this injury we are facing as dairy producers. As to the comment about the House motion back in 2005, zero and zero—zero new market access and zero tariff reduction—back in British Columbia where I'm from, zero and zero equal zero. Zero and zero doesn't equal eighteen. I'm trying to figure out the math on that one. But I was told very clearly that the House motion is not binding on the negotiators. It's not binding on the government, so we obviously can no longer use that.
Regarding the House motion, we were told by some officials that the elected representatives of the day today, who have made the deal, weren't even in the House in 2005. So how could it, in spite of unanimous party support, be actually in effect at this date?