Thank you, Mr. Lloyd.
Since some of us know the program, these may not have been real layman's terms, but the explanation was understandable, and I appreciate it. As to the oversight, oversights are oversights; these things happen. I'm not going to criticize that piece.
The only comment I'd make around it and the clarification, which I think I now can agree with—because we were struggling to figure out exactly where you were going with this, so we appreciate the clarification—is that I don't think there were witnesses whom you asked that question of, because I don't remember your being in the room to ask the question of the witness.
So these were “consultations” beyond those with the witness, were they?