I guess the question we start with is, what does the customer want, and how can we get to those markets and expand the markets? That's what the trade agenda of the government has been doing.
As far as what's happening with the plants, I think some of the legacy dollars that have been coming from different levels of government have been helpful in providing new technology in those plants. We have to deal with specified risk materials. In Cargill's case in High River they have a new technology there that's using that, recovering steam providing energy. Those have been necessary because of the fallout from BSE, but also I think that innovation in Canada, some of which comes from this country, is important in enabling our plants to be competitive.
In regard to the non-tariff barriers about carcass wash, whether it's lactic acid or steamed pasteurization, which has been an issue in the past in Europe, there's other technology such as ozonation that can be put into place. That's another thing that I think has some potential.
The plants can speak for themselves. We represent the feeders, but I know the Canadian Meat Council has been weighing in on this as well.