This is an emotional issue. It's very emotional. When you hear that we worked out a deal with the Canadian Dairy Commission on pizza cheese, for example, this is the same system, but you're finding anomalies in the system, where for frozen pizza—which advertises “like delivery”—they were buying the same cheese for 30% less because they were under some tariff rule such that they could get it cheaper than for fresh pizza. That was not fair, so we're trying to fix that.
There's another issue that I think the committee has to think about. The eighth-largest processor in the dairy processing area is Saputo, but they've grown outside of Canada, not inside Canada.
There are a lot of stresses that are happening in the system. There are pizza kits coming in now; even our members are finding a way around the system and trying to get dairy elsewhere. We need a made-in-Canada solution to help the dairy farmers.
It is not in our interests. I'm concerned. If we get rid of supply management, or if it collapses, we're in trouble. I'll say that. I'm publicly saying that. We need surety of supply and we need quality. We think it's the best quality in the world. We see this as an opportunity. So there has to be a way that we can.... I don't have all the answers. You may find that hard to believe—