Just to follow up on our last conversation about making industry stronger, you also alluded to the fact that sometimes when you see these barriers they do not benefit the producer or the consumer. It's sometimes a bit of a bureaucratic cash grab, I guess. We have constitutional rights, but you hear stories such as if you're selling Ontario peaches in Quebec you need a vendor's number and you have to have a vendor's licence and vice versa.
Is the will really there because they are getting what I call a “cash grab” or whatever it is? It has nothing to do with food safety or with helping the producer or the consumer. It's a hidden cash grab and nobody wants to sit around a table and let that cash grab go.
How much is collected on interprovincial licences and duties or whatever is out there? Is some of it protecting their own bureaucrats? I don't know whether it's unions. Is something missing here? It seems as if the producers don't want these barriers. Consumers don't want them. Where is the problem? Is this protecting somebody's turf, such as an inspector, or does this protect money flow? Where is this all at? Can you give me some examples?
How much is it really costing Canadians at the end of the day?