Sir, that specific reference was shipping apples to B.C. and the requirement for the phyto to get into the province. Once the doors are closed on the truck they can't be reopened without having another inspection, which adds additional costs across the country. They would load a truck with as many apples as they could and if they didn't have enough volume they wouldn't go.
In many cases when you look at a retail model with national retailers trying to manage their supply chain and consolidate buying—let's say that they're buying out of Ontario and they happen to need Ontario apples to go out west to their same chain in B.C.—the issue they have is that those apples can't get there based on the cost factor. It means adding cost by procuring somewhere else and sometimes it's not Canadian, so we lose the opportunity for a sale and on top of that if they do ship, we add costs that the consumer bears at the end.