It's a very difficult question to answer relative to losses.
As you know, the perishability of fresh produce can cause quite a few different issues, especially in transportation if the cold chain is not managed. Ensuring that the grower and the shipper are managing that cold chain when providing that product to the buyer interprovincially and that the transportation system is in place are vital. Transportation is an issue and my colleague in the west noted that relative to cereals.
For the produce industry, access to transportation interprovincially and also internationally is an ongoing costly component of our business.
There are innovations in place to ensure the cold chain management of the product is improved so that the product does reach its destination and has an extended shelf life once its there based on how it's handled through the shipping process. We have worked to find innovations with packaging and with shipping to be able to provide longer shelf life once the product is received. We're very hopeful that we'll continue to find more innovations to reduce any potential shrink and add increased sales to the grower.
Packaging is the key. It's a matter of, for example, whether they have to pack in clam shells for blueberries to ship across interprovincial boundaries. There may be other manners and ways to ship that are more cost effective and those are areas we need to investigate further.