People don't have to leave. We're not going in camera. I just need to get members of the committee back here for a minute.
Folks, I'm going to turn the meeting over to Michel in a minute, because Madam Ruth Ellen Brosseau has been first vice-chair, and she's going to step down.
Mr. Allen may be the member that would be proposed for the position, but this is the time that I would step away and let Michel run the meeting.