What we now have—excuse the pun—is far too many silos, without question. But I don't think we have ever sat down to look at this with our provincial counterparts and tried to deal with the food inspection industry for domestic rather than international trade. There may be some hope.
I understand Ms. Patterson's comments on the provincial system. I've been in a number of provincial plants, and many of them are state-of-the-art and are up to all the specifications, except for exporting. With the added cost for that, they just stay away from it—and probably couldn't make it, quite frankly, if they went there, because they're not in the export business.
The other aspect concerns the shippers. We have a reluctance from the provinces to accept one another's products, although if I travel to another province I'll eat provincially inspected lamb or provincially inspected beef or provincially inspected produce of any kind. We all do. But the other aspect, which I didn't realize, is the reluctance from the shippers; they won't take farm gate delivery. They want it to go to a central depot, and then that central depot can send it wherever.
I don't know how we get around this or whether it is even possible to get around it. But maybe there needs to be consumer pressure. Most consumers, if they want local lamb, buy local lamb from the butcher or from the abattoir.
I don't know whether you have any ideas on how we can apply that pressure or whether it is possible. They're too big.