Yes. The challenge is that I often get members, including people from Joe's company, who say they sell their product at a store in Montreal and they have to go through these very stringent requirements, such as testing requirements. For instance, they produce dry-cured meat. At the same time, he's competing against other provincial products that don't have those same costs of production as his. Of course, companies do sample each other's products, because they want to know what the competition is doing, and they know their product is better than the competition's.
I, personally, have visited many of the plants that are on this pilot project. There were several plants across the country that were to become federally inspected, and several of them were very close to having gotten over to federal inspection. One of the things they tell me is that they currently don't pay anything, that they get their provincial inspection for free, and that maybe they will reconsider whether they will join, because our members do pay a fee to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and that's the way it is. So it's unfair, as well, to our members, that they're competing in their own province against that.
In other provinces—I have a whole deck on it—the inspection is done at some places twice a year. We have inspectors in our facilities all the time. We cannot operate or slaughter at all without a veterinarian there. With other facilities, albeit they're much smaller, but still, if they're not inspected more than twice per year, that doesn't give me.... It's not the same. It's not the same costs, and it's a competitive disadvantage. It's not just the cost that's mentioned of what it will cost the small guys to become federally inspected. What about all the money the federal companies have invested in their facilities to meet those requirements? They would expect anybody else coming into the market to have to meet those requirements, as well.