I want to talk about that just a little bit because I think one thing we've learned is that there are a number of impacts. I'm never really sure how we understand the difference. You can talk to some of us around this table who have walked through some of this. I really think that there's an opportunity, first, for individuals who are out there at the local levels and who have walked through it and need to be tapped into. It's nothing against the academic side of it, but they have to come alongside with those who have had some experience.
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