It would be hard to quantify exactly what the cost is. Every farm is different, and a lot of us are shipping at different periods, depending on when we've marketed our grain.
If we don't move our grain, we don't pay our bills, and then we have to take out bridge loans to get things done and that's where the biggest effect is. We're a very cash-sensitive business in farming. For farmers, cash flow is king, and if we don't move our product, we don't have cash flow. That is a big problem. We are encouraged, because dialogue, I think, through the whole chain, with the grain companies, the grain farmers and the shippers, and even the ports to some extent, which we don't really hear about.... We all need to be talking together to make this work. That's why I said we're encouraged by the dialogue we've been having with the railways. It's a first. We've never had this before.
It seems almost as though we have a five-year cycle for issues with shipping. There was one last year, and then it was five years earlier when we had the other big issue with shipping. I was encouraged to hear that you guys were talking about the ports. I came in a little bit late, so I didn't hear everything. The ports also need to be fixed. Vancouver especially can be challenging in terms of getting the grain or any commodity in.