Dr. Peter Kevan at the Agriculture and Agri-Food Committee

I'll give you one example without naming the industry. I proposed years and years ago to do some work on learning and cognition in honeybees that would be given minute doses of neonicotinoid pesticides. I've done work with the institute of neurobiology at the Free University of Berlin on learning and cognition in bees. I was told by the scientist privately—he's now retired from the company—that yes, they were interested in having the work done, but if the work that was done had shown detrimental effects on learning and cognition on honeybees, then it would look bad on them. The original imidacloprid thing—