Overall, I think our stakeholders are very happy with the innovation programming. They really like the clusters program because it brings a range of partners together to collaborate in certain sectors. For example, there's a beef cluster and a dairy cluster. We hear very good things about that.
I think there are some challenges with the programs. I think one of the things they find is that funding on a five-year basis doesn't coincide with the timeframes on which research happens. Innovation research often takes a lot longer than a few years. I think the challenge they've been facing is that after they've been working on a cluster for a number of years, at the end of the five years they have to tail off their activities and wind them down, only to have to ramp them up again in the next framework. That happened from Growing Forward to Growing Forward 2. They're really concerned about their innovation activities and they're looking for that continuity of support from one framework to the next.