Okay.
Mr. Gourde made some good points about carbon taxes and hidden costs for farmers, or whatever. Not all of them have an impact on those reference margins and the trigger levels and so on, so I think we need to be very conscious of our competitiveness levels. Mr. Longfield mentioned that as well.
I do want to ask this question. The demand for assistance has not been high over the last few years, so those trigger levels and reference margins haven't come into play in the way that they may in the future.
As was pointed out, prices are dropping and debt is rising for farmers as well. The last time we had an issue with a drop in prices, those debt numbers came into play very significantly. I'm just wondering if you think the triggers and margins work effectively now, especially for young farmers, those farmers who are starting and do have those debt levels, because in the past, trying to use the programs effectively has been a real issue for younger farmers. There were no averages set up for them.
Are we going to be able to address that issue if we find ourselves in a situation of dropping prices?