I touched on it at the end of my presentation. Last night, there was an event with chicken farmers there, and they said that was a concern, including the time off feed and water. Maybe not so much the time off water, but off feed. That's why I said in the presentation that you have to be species-specific when you're talking about transport times. I'd encourage the committee to engage on the different species, because there can be unique situations where there may have to be some allowances made to ensure that the best thing is done.
One of the things I'd like to comment on, as well, is on the presentation from the humane society, which was recommending eight hours as a maximum time. I'm actually a livestock producer, a cattle guy—don't hold that against me—but if I think of eight hours, if you're within a couple of hours of your destination, loading and unloading those cattle puts a lot of stress on those animals.
I think we have to take a look at the overall animal care and animal welfare outcome rather than sometimes getting tied in so tight. If you get this target of eight hours and you know that an hour and a half down the road you can unload them at their final destination, why would you spend all that time running those cattle off a truck and getting them into a pen? Even though they have a rest period, they're not going to be too happy about getting back on that truck after that's done.
I think it's that outcome-based approach to the regulatory system, looking at what is best for the animal.