Exactly. We're seeing lots of good things there.
What's very interesting is the reinvestment in continuous learning that we see. Over 11,000 people attended one of our seminars this past year, and 14,000 the year before that.
They are out seeking knowledge. We're not the only ones who are providing it. There are lots of industry participants who are providing excellent knowledge offerings to their customers and the people they deal with. We're seeing really good things there, and I think it's only going to escalate in terms of that side of the equation.
One area that we hear people are interested in learning more about is how to get connections across like industries that may be national, and we've been facilitating some of that.