I would say that if we were to have an empty policy that would sit on a shelf with no institution to take it forward, that will not do it. I would also say if we were to just carry on as though the status quo is okay and climate change is not at our doorstep, that would be a big mistake. If we thought the market was going to resolve everything without any government intervention, that would also be a big mistake. And if we continue to operate in the siloed fashions in which we are operating now, with health not talking to agriculture and environment not talking to trade, and different departments and levels of government doing things at cross-purposes, that's what has to stop. We really need to think in new ways.
