Mr. Chair, I have to give a bit of context here and just remind some of my colleagues about what the Paris agreement is which 166 countries have signed on to. Yes, the U.S. may be withdrawing in 2020, but California still implemented a carbon pricing model. Any big country that signed on to the Paris agreement already has implemented a carbon pricing model. We're having access through CETA to 500 million consumers who all care about the environment and carbon. Anyway, those are the other facts.
On tax reform, I think that the Minister of Finance has heard you loud and clear. He has said that he doesn't want any unintended consequences. The longer we give uncertainty in the market, the worse it will be. Yes, it's going to end October 2 for the department, but there is legislation. It has to go through first, second, and third reading, which leaves plenty of time for comments once we know the final result. Right now we're still in consultation.
Mike, how are you? By the way, there are two days left of national chicken month.
You've talked about the cost of producing food. I was at a chicken farmer's about two or three weeks ago, and he talked about the whole bio movement, and he believes that the size of barns right now are probably too large because chickens tend to huddle together. I think he has about 20,000 chickens in there. He says that even that size of barn, per square footage—and I don't know the exact square footage required once you declare you're moving into bio-chicken as opposed to traditional methods. Anyway, he talked about how the size of the barn could probably be reduced because chickens tend to huddle together. He has all this extra space in there.
I'm wondering if you could talk about that and the impact on the cost of food, and again what activists are saying versus reality.