Evidence of meeting #82 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre Corriveau  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Management Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Chris Forbes  Deputy Minister, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Will you get back to us faster than the Treasury Board? We're all just waiting for the Treasury Board.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

I'll make sure you receive an answer to your question.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

So you're telling us on the record—

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

It's somewhat detailed.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

—that you believe this is a good use of taxpayers' money.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

I believe it's very important to—

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Your government said that $4 million for autism was not a good use of taxpayers' money. We actually heard that in the House of Commons during debate. You're saying that $3 million of taxpayers' money to send foreigners to foreign conferences is a good use of taxpayers' money. I just want to get that on the record here.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

My good friend, if you're trying to indicate that I do not have a feeling for autism—

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

No, I didn't say that.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

—I would be very disappointed in your questioning.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I didn't say “you”, I said “your government”.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

The fact of the matter is that I'm here to respond on agriculture estimates, not on autism. I certainly have a great feeling and a concern for anybody who has any health issues, but if you're going to start bringing autism and other health issues into this—

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

It's about the good use of taxpayers' money, Minister.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

No, you brought up the autism, my good friend. You brought up the autism. It's only fair that I say to you, quite clearly, that I do have a feeling for autism. I do have a feeling for people who have less. I do have a feeling for people who are hurt. But I am the Minister of Agriculture, and that's my responsibility.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I appreciate your answer. You say that the $3 million is a good use of taxpayers' money. That's fine.

I want to follow up on something from about a year ago, when China cut off our canola sales because of all the dockage. We came up with an agreement. It was a compromise for a research and science-based and stable solution. Can you update us on where we are with that compromise, or with that research? Are we at a steady state with this, where we're not going to fall into having our canola blocked again? Are we comfortable with that?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

Of course, being here for a number of years, I'm fully aware that these deals have been ongoing for periods of time, and not—

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

No, no; well, it long preceded a lot of us. I'm just wondering if you could update us on where we are with that.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

Well, I would like to.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Okay.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

The fact is that we have a deal to 2020.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Yes. I'm asking about the science-based and stable solution research as part of the compromise.

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Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

At the present dockage of two-point...is it 2.1%...? Yes, we have an agreement with China.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

We have an agreement, but part of the compromise was for research into it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Mr. McCauley the MP.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I'd like an update on the research.