Evidence of meeting #82 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre Corriveau  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Management Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Chris Forbes  Deputy Minister, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Will you get back to us faster than the Treasury Board? We're all just waiting for the Treasury Board.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

I'll make sure you receive an answer to your question.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

So you're telling us on the record—

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

It's somewhat detailed.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

—that you believe this is a good use of taxpayers' money.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

I believe it's very important to—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Your government said that $4 million for autism was not a good use of taxpayers' money. We actually heard that in the House of Commons during debate. You're saying that $3 million of taxpayers' money to send foreigners to foreign conferences is a good use of taxpayers' money. I just want to get that on the record here.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

My good friend, if you're trying to indicate that I do not have a feeling for autism—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

No, I didn't say that.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

—I would be very disappointed in your questioning.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I didn't say “you”, I said “your government”.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

The fact of the matter is that I'm here to respond on agriculture estimates, not on autism. I certainly have a great feeling and a concern for anybody who has any health issues, but if you're going to start bringing autism and other health issues into this—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

It's about the good use of taxpayers' money, Minister.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

No, you brought up the autism, my good friend. You brought up the autism. It's only fair that I say to you, quite clearly, that I do have a feeling for autism. I do have a feeling for people who have less. I do have a feeling for people who are hurt. But I am the Minister of Agriculture, and that's my responsibility.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I appreciate your answer. You say that the $3 million is a good use of taxpayers' money. That's fine.

I want to follow up on something from about a year ago, when China cut off our canola sales because of all the dockage. We came up with an agreement. It was a compromise for a research and science-based and stable solution. Can you update us on where we are with that compromise, or with that research? Are we at a steady state with this, where we're not going to fall into having our canola blocked again? Are we comfortable with that?

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

Of course, being here for a number of years, I'm fully aware that these deals have been ongoing for periods of time, and not—

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

No, no; well, it long preceded a lot of us. I'm just wondering if you could update us on where we are with that.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

Well, I would like to.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Okay.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

The fact is that we have a deal to 2020.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Yes. I'm asking about the science-based and stable solution research as part of the compromise.

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

At the present dockage of two-point...is it 2.1%...? Yes, we have an agreement with China.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

We have an agreement, but part of the compromise was for research into it.

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Mr. McCauley the MP.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I'd like an update on the research.