We also heard over the last few weeks that our transport minister and our agriculture minister consistently defend the railways, saying we've talked to CN and we've talked to CP. They relied on them to try to solve this problem. We've seen the consequences of that approach.
In your opinion, from the answers you heard today from CN and CP, do you have any faith that without the consequences of fines, penalties, and mandatory volume regulations, there would be any incentive for CN and CP to improve their service?