I certainly appreciate that DPAC represents varying sizes of establishments. Also, we have a very good working relationship with the provincial organizations, which even take it down to the next level as well, to those entrepreneurial individuals. There is on-farm processing taking place, and it's being supported, and there are small organizations. It's very difficult, however, to work into a main stream in order to grow. It's great to be able to grow locally, and then they have to take the next step. That's when they start to run into some of the bigger issues.
There are listing fees. If you get too large, then the infrastructure has to get larger. There are the trucking pieces—the ability to truck, access to market, access to labour. Equipment is exorbitant; it's not made in Canada, but is from Europe or from the U.S. They're at the mercy of having to make sure they have adequate supply, because you need plant supply quota to enter the marketplace.
Being innovative in a niche market has certainly helped, but there is an element that you have to be able to take to the next level. Those organizations that are between $30 million and $100 million are struggling with the same elements as the large ones. Once you get to that element, there's a host of other criteria that you have to be able to meet as well, which they struggle with, and there's being played off as one supplier against another.