The last piece is around the American position. Some of the members of this committee had the opportunity to be in Congress last spring. I was in Congress in July and tried to ascertain what the American position is, because although it was mentioned in testimony, there is not a federal carbon price in the United States. There are certainly a lot of taxpayers' dollars used through the Inflation Reduction Act, which is incentivizing. That has a true cost in the treasury sense.
Can you explain, Ms. Govier, any of the American position? From what I can ascertain from your testimony, you're responsible for any type of Canadian reciprocity that may come from other jurisdictions imposing this. What is the American view? Do you or maybe Mr. Rosser have any view on agriculture? It seemed to me that it was kind of, as opposed to a pricing approach, more of a club approach. Either you're doing something to be part of the environmental solution or you're not, and there would be a tariff wall or there wouldn't be.
Can you speak to anything that can give us a little more on the American perspective? That is crucially important with the nexus of our trading relationship.