There's just a quick question from the Chair.
One of the interesting things about this study is what I've heard consistently from witnesses—and I would agree—about how Canadian agriculture would be either top shelf or maybe even superior to most other agri-food products around the world, certainly on an index for carbon intensity. We've heard that about 10% of emissions in Canada are tied to agriculture, while the global average is 30%. Even against comparator countries, I think Canada's doing quite well.
Obviously, one of the elephants in the room has been carbon pricing. We've heard about that. It's largely exempt, but, Mr. Roy, you talk about things like natural gas and propane still existing. Whether or not it's carbon pricing or, to Ms. Grossenbacher's point, the idea of more government subsidies and more taxpayers' dollars going in, it has a true cost in the treasury sense.
How do we account for that? That's what I think this committee is trying to establish. How do we make sure that Canadian superiority on some of these products is accounted for, but also ask our domestic industry to be part of the solution on reducing emissions?
I think the science is clear that we need to be doing that across a variety of different sectors for countries that are choosing not to ask their domestic industries to be a part of that.
Mr. Harvey, I take your point that it's early. Politicians are rarely accused of that. I think it's probably good that we're thinking a bit ahead. If not a carbon border adjustment mechanism, is there some other type of policy that you think is important to protect Canadian competitiveness in an environment where we are asking domestic industry to be part of that solution and bear the costs, whether in a carbon price or in additional subsidies that ultimately come from the Canadian taxpayer?
How do we account for that in the system? Is it a club approach? Is it the case that either you're doing something and therefore you're not subject to a tariff, or you're not and you're a baddy and you are subject to a tariff?
How do we get there? Do you have any thoughts on that?