There are plenty of examples of specific cases where products have been stopped at the border for a residue, a canola seed or a weed seed that wasn't really there. We've seen many examples of barriers being thrown up.
For us, it's the more fundamental things. It's the institutionalizing of basically non-tariff barriers. It's things like the deforestation approach in Europe or the mirror clause that my colleague described. Those are things that would now be embedded in their way of doing business that would basically throw up barriers to any exporter. That's what's more of a concern.
We feel that Canada can play a leadership role globally in terms of enforcing those rules-based trading systems that we've all adhered to and signed on to, and really push that agenda forward.